“The gen 3 was significantly more powerful, and you can absolutely interpolate that result to the M12.”
“The gen 3 was significantly more powerful, and you can absolutely interpolate that result to the M12.”
“you need an impact driver that accepts the 1/4 hex bits. You’ll be able to adapt it for sockets as well. I recommend the Milwaukee Fuel Surge.”
“The SURGE hydraulic impact is amazing for hardware larger than #10. For #6 and #8 hardware, especially stainless or chinesium, it can snap the screw head off almost immediately even on the low setting.”
“Your M18 surge is 450inlbs compared to the 2953's 2000inlbs of torque”
“Milwaukee M18 Fuel Surge you have my heart”
“I also just had a surge impact driver leak oil everywhere while still brand new in box”
“The Surge is an immensely mediocre Impact Driver that is barely worth keeping (if you get it cheap) as a backup bench warmer or tool to loan out, IMO.”
“I far prefer using an 18v oil impulse driver. They're not that much more expensive, but are much quieter and pleasant to use. [I use the Milwaukee 18v Surge oil impulse driver.]”
“I’ve got both of the Milwaukee Surge impacts (hydraulic) because they’re quieter, but the DeWalt DCF870 is their brand new hydraulic impact and it’s easily twice as powerful as the M18 Surge.”
“I would not buy the Surge unless you need a quieter impact driver. Even then, a drill in my opinion is a better option because the Surge is very weak”
“The surge is great for sound control and vibrations, so if those are important to you it’s a great tool. But if you over work it you are going to damage the gearbox”
“The Milwaukee Surge is the best I have ever used of any brand, and is actually one of the best tools I have ever used of any category. Period.”
“I've got both the M12 and M18 versions of the Surge and use them both far more than my M18 impact. I like the reduction in noise.”
“I have the M18 surge impact driver but I find myself reaching for my Bosch 12v impact because it's just so much more compact”
“If power is what youre issue is here, than dont get the surge. It severely lacks in power compared to any normal milwaukee fuel impact driver.”
“their M18 Fuel Surge model is so much quieter than Dewalt impact driver.”
“With the exception of the Surge Impact driver. Its quiet, but a hunk of junk. It failed after two relatively easy projects for me.”
“SURGE runs quieter than the earlier models but I dont think it’s such a big improvement as to warrant the extra $100 or so”
“I have a couple of Fuel Surge M18 impact drivers at work that an authorized Milwaukee repair man failed to fix on two attempts”
“The Milwaukee surge has a weaker peak impact force than the standard impact driver, but it’s got a much longer impact duration so for driving fasteners like long structural screws or lags, they’re much faster. They’re definitely not as good at breaking fasteners free when stuck though.”
“My Milwaukee surge was pretty good for them too”
“I do prefer the M18 surge as it's so quiet”
“the M18 Surge wasn't though, returned that and got the Dewalt hydraulic 1/4" impact and it is much better.”
“Get an impact driver, they are awesome:”